Some people cut it off at Bonifant as the north border and the rail tracks as the south border.

Others stop it at Fenton and don’t include the stretch to George Ave now being dubbed “Fenton Village.”

Yes, these people do give a lot of their time, and they are some of the few that have the time to give. Frankly, I’m not sure I would have the time to devote to all the tasks involved with holding ESSCA office. But note that I really call out the people within the ESSCA boundaries (whatever those are) for not going to the meetings. And I stand by my fact that if the membership in ESSCA reflected the actual makeup of the community, some of the “votes” and “decisions” would most likely go a different way.

My goal right now is to get people involved so we don’t *have* to necessarily change the leadership. Then we can vote FOR the redevelopment of part of Falkland Chase (as if that really matters anyway). And FOR higher building heights in Fenton Village. And FOR the light rail purple line.

If we really want to ruffle some feathers, perhaps we should revisit granting membership and voting rights to renters who live within the boundaries. That would be fun, don’t you think?

Do I agree with many of their policies and decisions? NO. But I also know I cannot make the meetings do to a long-standing 3rd Monday commitment and instead can contact and talk to any of the officer’s directly if I wish to — or I can bring it up on the ESSC list serv.

BTW your BOUNDARIES of ESSCA are OFF and exclude many of us in ESSCA-land.

Can anyone imaging trying to run for office in a local election but not being able to contact registered voters? Or registered Democrats (if you were running in, say, a Democratic primary)? I know that civic association politics are not exactly high politics but there really needs to be more transparency.

It’s just that your methods seem at odds with your goal. Few people in this neighborhood are going to follow or take the advice from someone who doesn’t have self-discipline and a fairly well-grounded sense of decorum. You will never find enough people to change ESSCA with rants and foul language.

I have thin skin – that’s what I have been told. The snarky comments and glares are the main reason why I don’t participate now. Please – don’t make it more difficult for people to get involved by turning them off with fucking nasty remarks and jabs that don’t really add anything useful to the conversation. I know you are frustrated – and I have been spitting mad myself over this topic – but please consider a more positive and constructive approach…

That having been said, there are some great people involved in ESSCA. I may not agree with what they say or do, but they do these things because they believe in them. And I respect that there’s a conviction about their decisions.

Still doesn’t mean I won’t poke fun. Don’t be such a buzzkill.

If more than 50% doesn’t vote for a comrade candidate does that mean they lose? It’s not like there is a choice is there? You get to vote for candidate A or nobody I guess. Long live Bob Colvin, may he finally decide one day to not run for reelection!